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Here is the full article : https://www.tatlerasia.com/lifestyle/arts/artist-ha-nguyen-long-and-ha-tri-hieu-continuity-of-heritage-vn-en 

This article was published from the original print feature in Tatler Vietnam, October 2024 – Family & Legacy.

 

In the studio of father and son Ha Tri Hieu and Ha Nguyen Long, heritage and art effortlessly converge.

The conversation unfolds in the studio of Ha Tri Hieu and Ha Nguyen Long, a space where heritage and art effortlessly converge. Although each has built an esteemed reputation both in Vietnam and internationally, few realise they are father and son—a relationship marked by shared insights into their careers, lives, and creative journeys.

Seated together, we recorded a candid exchange between two generations of artistic visionaries. One is a pioneering artist; the other, a stage director, spatial designer, and art director. Together, they explored the fluidity of heritage, reflecting on the threads of “connection” and “continuity” that shape the future of art.

For many years, Ha Tri Hieu’s name has been synonymous with the Gang of Five, a movement that emerged during a pivotal era of Vietnamese history, society, and culture in the 1990s. Can you share your artistic journey and how you have continued to evolve beyond your own successes?

Ha Tri Hieu (HTH): Rural landscapes were a prevalent theme in Vietnamese art at the time. However, if we only viewed the countryside through simple pastoral scenes, the previous generations of artists had already mastered that approach. As a young painter, I sought an alternative path—perhaps fate intervened, guiding me to discover my own distinct space in which to create.

Friends often ask why we are so resolute in our pursuit of change. For an artist, “self-discovery” is paramount. It requires continuous learning—reading, listening, observing, and engaging with both the artistic community and the broader world. Yet, each individual absorbs these influences in different ways. We must know how to filter, distil, and excavate from within. To me, that inner wellspring draws from our ancestors, our forebears, and ultimately, the essence of this nation.

 

In 2017, while preparing for the exhibition Gang of Five: Lac Buoc Tan Ky, I embarked on a transformation, adopting a new theoretical and conceptual approach to painting. I often refer to it—partly in jest—as “separation”: the process of evolution, of translating inherited creative genes into a new artistic philosophy. By 2023, with my series I and I, I consciously sought to bring closure to an earlier chapter of my work. This was my way of stepping away from the visual language that had defined me—the rustic scenes, the cows, the bamboo groves, the rural women—all of which had become synonymous with the name Ha Tri Hieu in Vietnamese art.

Beyond the inevitable tensions between artistic generations, there also exists an internal impulse for transformation. Yet, not all artists feel the need to change. Some follow a singular creative trajectory throughout their lives. Personally, I have always sought newness. The real challenge lies not in change itself but in ensuring that change feels like a natural evolution rather than an abrupt disruption.

Ha Tri Hieu and Ha Nguyen Long
Above Painter Ha Tri Hieu and artist Ha Nguyen Long.
 

The son of artist Ha Tri Hieu, Ha Nguyen Long is currently a stage director, spatial designer, and art director of XPLUSX Studio—an independent creative space specialising in spatial design and the performing arts in both France and Vietnam. Having grown up surrounded by his father’s artworks and exposed from an early age to his parents’ circle of artist friends, was the artistic path always intrinsically linked to his life and childhood dreams? When did he first begin creating art?

Ha Nguyen Long (HNL): My desire to make art came to me quite late—during my studies at the Vietnam University of Fine Arts. I was always aware that everyone around me was creating art, yet I had no real understanding of what I was making beyond what I could see. I had not yet separated it, nor grasped its significance. I had not connected it to my own being. It was only when I found myself in an environment where I was physically making something with my hands that the feeling took root. The memories of my childhood resurfaced, and for the first time, I experienced what people often call the urge to create—an impulse to craft something for myself, in my own visual language.

 

Growing up in a home quite literally filled with paintings, I have many vivid memories, but one stands out above all. It was the first moment I felt that I could be something beyond an artist—that I could inhabit a different creative realm. That realisation came when I stood before a large painting that my father had left me. I must have been seven or eight years old—the first time I drew freely, outside the confines of a school assignment. It was an overwhelming sensation, as though I were being drawn into another dimension, immersed in a space brimming with emotion. That was when I began creating my first images.

At the time, I experimented with liquid black and white ink, letting droplets flow and merge into patterns, forming a space unlike anything I had ever seen—even in my imagination. As I stood before the painting, I felt as though I were inside it, shrinking into each drop of water. That moment shaped the way I visualised the world, bridging the realms of two-dimensional and three-dimensional space. Looking back, I realise that this memory was perhaps the defining shift in my artistic perspective—the moment when the “boy” Long first glimpsed his own creative path.

 
Ha Tri Hieu and Ha Nguyen Long
Above Painter Ha Tri Hieu and artist Ha Nguyen Long.
 

During Ha Tri Hieu’s time, when the country was still reeling from the effects of war and a period of isolation, he often emphasised the importance of preserving Vietnamese culture and national traditions. Yet, the artistic language he inherited was profoundly influenced by the West—particularly by the French Academy of Fine Arts, with oil painting becoming a dominant medium. In such a context, how did he navigate the delicate balance between safeguarding tradition and developing a new artistic language? In reconciling the old, traditional, and Eastern with the new, modern, and Western, what challenges did he face?

HTH: I believe that modernity must stem from its origins—from the nation itself. For me, a nation’s essence lies within each individual. Living and working in Vietnam, I have inevitably drawn upon artistic materials and methodologies from more developed countries. They have served as tools for my learning and research. However, I have always held the view that if I want to engage with the wider world, I must use a modern, Western artistic language to express national characteristics—one that resonates with both Vietnamese and international audiences.

 

The success of an artwork ultimately depends on public recognition, but the artist’s personal fulfilment comes from within. An artist must carry a deep emotional connection to his work, must love what he creates, and must find satisfaction in his own discoveries. To achieve this, he must remain rooted in his origins—his core identity. In other words, he must allow the public to discover him, rather than simply catering to their expectations.

Each artist must develop a distinct voice so that the wider public can appreciate the diversity of artistic languages within the Vietnamese art scene. It is this diversity that distinguishes great artists.

Ha Nguyen Long
Above Artist Ha Nguyen Long
 

After graduating from the Vietnam Fine Arts University, Ha Nguyen Long spent time studying in France. To what extent has France influenced Vietnam’s artistic and philosophical ideology? As a young artist, how did this experience shift his artistic perspective?

HNL: My time in France revealed to me the greatest difference between the two artistic environments—the ability to pass knowledge on. I am not speaking here about the transmission of craft heritage or artisan traditions in Vietnam, but rather about the broader artistic landscape. In France, and more widely in Europe, the transmission of knowledge is highly structured, facilitated by academic institutions such as museums, art schools, and research centres. Some may view this as a “burden” for local artists, yet I believe that the systematic presence of heritage and traditional values is crucial in contemporary life. It was something I felt was somewhat lacking in Vietnam, and this absence left me with a deep sense of disconnection—one that lingered throughout my time abroad.

The academic system in France provided me with a structured pathway into the art world, allowing me to integrate seamlessly. Yet, over time, the feeling of being lost resurfaced. It was then that I recognised my own difference from local artists and began searching once again. I ultimately made the decision to return to Vietnam, to explore personal and family narratives—to truly understand who I once was. The present and the future remain an open door to the unknown.

 
Ha Tri Hieu
Above Artist Ha Tri Hieu
 

Now, Hieu is a grandfather and Long is a father. What are your thoughts on continuity and passing the torch to the next generation?

HTH: In the past, our family would always share stories over lunch—Long, the son of painter Nguyen Quoc Hoi, and painter Nguyen Minh Quan were always part of these conversations. I would offer my thoughts on various artists’ works, my impressions, and perceptions, almost like a running radio broadcast. Over time, these stories naturally seeped into the minds of the younger generation.

I believe that an artist’s ego is ultimately reflected in their work—contemporary and embodying the spirit of its era. Some works and figures resonate for only a fleeting moment before fading into obscurity. That is why every artist must determine where their true essence lies. Is it just about a name? In any profession, moments of prominence can quickly ignite and just as quickly disappear. But for an artist—particularly in painting—I believe the path must be a long and enduring one. There is no need to seek a name for oneself when, in the end, the true pursuit is an internal one: the search for self. Perhaps, that is the most important thing.

 

HNL: One of the limitations of today’s global and international art world is the expectation that artists must act as representatives of their culture or region. I find this a rather narrow and rigid definition. Personally, my search for traditional heritage stems from deeply familiar things. I am uncovering fragments of memory from my parents and grandparents, slowly leading me further and deeper.

For example, I came to realise that my love for the art of Tuong Cheo was rooted in childhood memories of watching the same television programme with my grandmother. From that, a natural and profound reverence for tradition and heritage took shape. As someone working in theatre and painting, my creative drive is inseparable from the experiences and emotions I absorb from the world around me. The birth of a child brings an entirely new dimension of emotional experience, and time will continue to shape both my perspective and my child’s.